"Athens, Jerusalem, and America: Faith, Politics, and the Stage for the Antichrist"
My Critique of a Fellow Christian's Assessment of the Charlie Kirk Memorial, President Trump,
and those who Support Him - By R.A. Baker - October 2025

Around 1.5 hours of Worship Opened the Memorial Service

90,000 People were in the Stadium - Another 100,000 Participated Outside the Stadium
This is an interesting article (below). I do not know who the author is, but I feel confident it is someone with some formal education in some kind of divinity degree. I have several fellow Christian friends who could have written this. I want to comment on this article, point out why I disagree with many statements the writer makes and what I think are important historic flaws in the selection of certain Christian leaders offered by this writer.
(From this point forward I will refer to the writer with a male pronoun. Why? It makes writing easier and the reader who sent it told me the writer is a man).
First, I agree with the some of the general concepts presented. I also agree with a few of the critical statements he makes about Donald Trump. What is sad to me is the inability of many Christians, including this writer, to view President Trump within the current historical context. This fellow Christian brother is offering a knee jerk reaction against this man (Trump supporters call it TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome). In many of my Christian friends there seems to be is a distinct inability to discern nuance and to be even-handed in judgment when it comes to Trump.
I am going to insert my comments inline in white background.
Athens, Jerusalem, and America: Faith, Politics, and the Stage for the Antichrist
St. Augustine's City of God remains one of the most profound frameworks for understanding the Christian life. Augustine carefully delineates the City of God, eternal, spiritual, and oriented toward divine truth, from the earthly city, temporal, human, and often self-serving. Christians are citizens of both in this life but are called to orient their ultimate allegiance to the eternal city, never allowing earthly powers to eclipse divine authority.
Later reformers like Luther and Calvin built upon Augustine's vision. Luther emphasized the distinction between spiritual and temporal realms, particularly in the "two kingdoms" theology, while Calvin stressed God's sovereignty over all areas of life, encouraging believers to live faithfully within society. In the modern evangelical world, however, Calvin's emphasis has often been reinterpreted into robust activism: politics becomes a battlefield for spiritual influence, a way to implement godly order on earth.
Yesterday's memorial of Charlie Kirk at State Farm Stadium presents a striking case study in how these tensions play out. Vice President JD Vance described Kirk as a man of both Athens and Jerusalem: a lover of reason and a man of God. He said Kirk loved both cities, but ultimately, none was his home. His home was America, and he was prepared to die for it.
The next comment Vance made was of how Kirk was known for "bringing the light of truth to dark places." Then Vance ended this section with: "And most of all, Charlie brought the truth that Jesus Christ was the King of Kings and that all truth flowed from this first and most important one." Then the VP spoke for a few minutes about how Charlie Kirk loved his wife and children, ending with: "...he showed the importance of strong Christian fatherhood."
It is at this point where Vance moved to the concept of Athens and Jerusalem. Yes, Vance does say that Kirk's home was America, but again, this critical writer has jumped on that statement and pulled it out of context. The writer then cites Tertullian...
Pause for a moment. Augustine would ask: what happens when a temporal city becomes the ultimate home of someone whose life is supposedly devoted to God? Tertullian once asked, "What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?" - a question about the proper relationship between human wisdom and divine revelation. Yesterday, the question is amplified, even on steroids: Athens, Jerusalem, and America.
Vance's words effectively baptize Kirk's patriotism with a spiritual halo. Kirk becomes a figure who harmonizes reason, faith, and nationalism. From a Christian perspective, however, the fusion is profoundly disorienting. When ultimate devotion - the willingness to die - is pledged to a nation rather than to God, the City of God is subordinated to the earthly city. This is exactly the kind of misplaced allegiance Scripture warns can open the stage for the Antichrist: religious authority fused with political power, ultimate loyalty displaced from God, and devotion to human kingdoms appearing divinely sanctioned.
He invokes Tertullian, who was not the only early church father. There were several fathers who had studied philosophy: Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Basil the Great, Gregory of Nyssa...and yes, even Augustine studied philosophy.
Tertullian makes the "Athens...Jerusalem" statement in Book 7 of Prescription against Heretics, yet Tertullian himself fails to acknowledge that the apostle Paul used Stoicism in Romans chapters 1 and 2. When Paul preached in Athens he cited Greek poets (illustrating his famous statement "I become all things to all men," 1 Cor. 9:22). [The great F.F. Bruce argues such in his commentary on Acts (Eerdmans 1990), p.334]
Back to Tertullian (who went against several norms in the church of his day). I doubt the writer of this article would agree 100% with that great North African Church Father. Tertullian (like Calvin who will be cited further down) could be VERY hard on Christians that had failed to maintain their faith. This comment by Tertullian also had an historical context - Roman persecution. This is what Tertullian expected from sinners:
...to beg the intercession of the brethren...on his knees in their midst, covered with sackcloth and ashes, in an attitude of humiliation and fear...kissing [their] footprints...embracing the knees of all. On Purity 13
I can only hope that the writer of this article would disagree with Tertullian on this issue of penance.
And so, ultimately, I think this writer is cherry-picking (and nit-picking) in his entire critique while failing to see his own historical mistakes used to undergird his own sins and flaws which I will point out below. I did not start this fight.
Vance continues in his tribute to speak about Kirk's faith and his own Christian faith:
"I have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have my entire time in public life.
And that is an undeniable legacy of the great Charlie Kirk."
This writer fails to mention ANY references of faith made by Kirk, Vance or Trump. He is laser focused on what bothers him without offering any context.
What bothers him is nationalism. This writer is offended by American nationalism. I am hearing that sentiment consistently from Trump haters. This writer claims that VP Vance and Charlie Kirk are more devoted to nationalism than to the kingdom of God:
"When ultimate devotion - the willingness to die - is pledged to a nation rather than to God, the City of God is subordinated to the earthly city." [emphasis MINE]
This is slander (the writer sounds like a Democrat). Actually, one could argue that this is libel since it is in writing. Did he give a reference for this misrepresentation to Vance or Kirk (or anyone else at this Memorial)? No. He doesn't. Why? Because it is a lie. It is an outlandish thing to say about a brother in Christ.
While his comment fairly represents "nationalism" as typically defined, MOST Christian Trump supporters would NEVER put our nation before God. THIS WRITER might accuse Kirk, Vance, Trump and me of this, but he is:
1. Wrong 2. He appoints himself as the Judge against his brothers.
This writer needs to memorize Romans 14 - the entire chapter.
Back to the article
Then comes Erica Kirk. Her speech was exquisite, a perfect embodiment of the gospel: forgiveness for her husband's accused killer, calls to discipleship, the sanctity of marriage, and the pursuit of godly living. It was one of those moments, the City of God shone unmistakably through her words. It was the gospel in action: pure, transformative, and eternal.
Next came President Trump. He hailed Kirk as a "martyr for American freedom," weaving Kirk's death into political action and campaign-style rhetoric. In his framing, gospel hope was eclipsed by the language of nationalism. The effect was to elevate political activism into the realm of the spiritual, as though dying for America were parallel to dying for Christ. Augustine would already sound the alarm here: when the earthly city is given the language of ultimate devotion, the line between Christ and Caesar is blurred.
Trump pressed the point further, declaring: "Without borders, law and order, and religion, you don't really have a country anymore. We want religion brought back to America. We want to bring God back." As a strategist, he knows what history shows: nationalist regimes-from Rome to modern totalitarian states-have always understood that religion is essential if you want to mandate loyalty and sustain control. To hear such words at a Christian memorial is chilling. Religion here is not lifted up as the worship of the true God for His own sake, but as a necessary ingredient for national survival. It is Christianity instrumentalized for the sake of the state.
Erica Kirk was truly moving in the Spirit of God. Everyone there could sense it.
The Memorial was sullied by President Trump's comments. He went into "Rally" mode. I was disappointed as were many, many of those who support him. There are times when President Trump says things...and I cringe, wishing he could have just NOT said anything.
But see, this is me being objective...and leaning towards some kind of grace. Should we judge Trump because he says things that are stupid or should have been left unsaid? Biden did it. GW Bush did it. Obama did it BUT you better not say he did...or you are a racist!
How many times have I had this same feeling in church when a preacher of the gospel says something stupid?
Answer: MANY times.
Have I ever made stupid comments from the pulpit? Yes! And I always ask the Lord for His mercy and forgiveness.
However, this writer makes himself the Judge and invokes the Antichrist:
And then, after Trump's speech, came the moment of profound cognitive dissonance. Erica leaned in to hug him twice, her head resting toward his chest. On one level, this was wholly human: a grieving widow seeking solace, instinctively leaning on someone she perceived as steady and protective. No one can fault her for this impulse of raw lament. Yet in the spiritual optics of the event, the symbolism was inescapable. Erica, who only moments earlier had embodied the City of God through words of forgiveness, holiness, and discipleship, now leaned physically toward the earthly city-embodied by a man whose life and conduct are the very antithesis of the gospel values she had just proclaimed. Trump stood upright, firm, unyielding, the embodiment of temporal power. Millions witnessed a visual allegory: the City of God inclining toward the earthly city, not in reciprocal humility but in human grief framed within a political spectacle.
Here the dissonance becomes unbearable. The gospel of the eternal city and the spectacle of national power collided on stage, and in the collision many Christians watching could not discern the difference. For Augustine, this is precisely the danger: when sacred devotion and political loyalty are mingled, the church risks confusion, compromise, and captivity.
What does this mean for millions of Christians watching, empathising, and celebrating along in worship with the Christian pastors and worship leaders at the memorial? We are witnessing institutionalized evangelical nationalism - the fusion of church and state, sacred and temporal power - echoing the age of Emperor Constantine, when political authority and Christian faith were inaugurated together. Scripture and Augustine warn that such fusion opens the door for idolatrous allegiance, deception, and moral compromise - conditions that Scripture identifies as the environment in which the Antichrist emerges.
But more crazy, this writer is about to invoke Luther and Calvin!
Athens, Jerusalem, and America are now entangled in ways that blur theological clarity. Political activism is sanctified; patriotic allegiance is spiritualized; moral exemplars are confused; and the line between faithfulness to Christ and devotion to temporal power becomes perilously thin.
For Christians, this is a moment to pause, discern, and ask: where is our ultimate home? Are we citizens first of the eternal City of God, or are we pledging ultimate loyalty to temporal powers? What does it mean when admiration, ritual, and spectacle conflate Christ and Caesar, gospel and nationalism, holiness and political ambition?
We are at a crossroads. Athens, Jerusalem, and America are now entangled in ways Augustine would have feared, in ways Luther and Calvin would have cautioned against. [ REALLY! Hard to believe he invokes Luther and Calvin in this discussion...I will address this mistake below.] The memorial invites profound reflection: Are we willing to hold firm to the eternal city, even when the spectacle of the earthly city tempts us otherwise? And if not, what are we becoming? And if this fusion of devotion, spectacle, and power persists unchecked, could it be setting the stage for the Antichrist - a figure or movement that fuses temporal authority with religious allegiance, commanding hearts and nations under a veneer of spiritual legitimacy?
After everything this writer says above regarding the church getting "entangled" with politics, he invokes Luther and Calvin!
Yes, both of these men are considered to be great Reformation leaders, but they were both "Magisterial Reformers." Check out this definition:
First, Martin Luther:
"The flaws that blighted Luther's reputation...his relation to peasants in 1524-25 or to Jews late in his life, are gross, obvious, and in the latter case, even revolting." [Martin, Marty E, Martin Luther: A Life (UK Penguin Publishing 2008, p.xi]
Also,
"In turn and in rage Luther felt licensed to use degrading imagery [against the Jews, I cannot include the graphic descriptions offered by Martin in this account]...he called on the civil authorities to banish Jews...burn synagogues along with the books of rabbis and even their homes..." Ibid, p.178.
This writer also invokes John Calvin. Here is a simple description of Christianity "entangled with politics"...Calvin's Geneva under his leadership:
"The council came to have tremendous impact on the lives of citizens. Severe punishments were given even for strictly religious offenses...Force was used on those who opposed the council and numerous people were tortured and killed...
[Michael] Servetus' slow death by burning at the stake [with green wood so it would be slow] became a symbol of the repressive effects of religious zeal..." [Peterson, R. Dean, A Concise History of Christianity 3rd ed. (Wadsworth 2007), p.213]
Luther AND Calvin pushed for the government to punish what they considered to be sinful behavior, yet this writer thinks Trump is the worst actor of all times, hands down.
I just pointed out some unfortunate historical oversights by this writer, but the main reason I am taking this writer to task is FAR more serious. He is presenting himself as a prophet in judgment against fellow believers. His ultimate message is that anyone who supports President Trump is guilty of the sin of nationalism and is close to following the Antichrist. In doing this he has made himself to be "the accuser of the brethren."
There is NO WAY that Charlie Kirk was giving his "ultimate devotion" to America over the kingdom of God. Kirk did not "subordinate" God under his country. This writer never mentions that Kirk started almost every campus tent-show meeting with a fairly direct (and gracious) presentation of the gospel.
In fact, I have not heard a single critic of Kirk mention this fact.
This writer is offended by nationalism. The definition of "nationalism" is that a person gives allegiance to their nation before anything else. I do not know a single serious Christian who fits this definition. I know Charlie Kirk did not put the USA above Jesus. I would bet that MANY of those who were worshipping the Lord at the Kirk Memorial would NEVER put the USA above Jesus. Were there some non-Christians at that Memorial? Probably...but man, did they hear the gospel!
Discussion about Nationalism
I would call myself a "nationalist," but NOT under the classic definition. My interaction with Liberal Americans, Canadians and Europeans says to me that they do not like anyone to be "patriotic." I am keenly aware that many people from other nations do not like the USA and do not like our patriotism. While living in Scotland I watched a Super Bowl with two faculty members of St Andrews (the game started at 2:00am). It was me, the two English faculty brothers and one other American PhD student. As the national athem was playing our faculty friends laughed when the camera focused on a few athletes with tears in their eyes, "Why do Americans cry during their anthem?" one of them asked. They laughed.
I unashamedly love my country. I think everyone should love their country and be patriotic. I have "friends" who sound like this writer - they do not like Pres. Trump and they are critical of me and other Christians for supporting him. THAT is ok to me. If they voted for Obama or Biden I felt the same way about them. I put friends in quotation marks because some of these Christians go judgemental on me and LIKE THIS WRITER, they question my faith.
I did not do this to them when they voted for Obama. Read Romans 14, traditionally referred to as the chapter on "matters of conscience." It's the chapter where Paul is urging the believers to abstain from judging one another when they disagree with whether one should eat meat offered to idols and/or drink wine, or argue about what day to worship. This chapter speaks to the many points of theology, church polity, interpretation of biblical text, personal habits, and points of view that are NOT CLEARLY represented in the scriptures (and there are many things that are NOT clear).
Four times in Romans 14 Paul tells us not to judge one another:
- you "must not treat [your brother] with contempt...he who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does" v3
- "Who are you to judge someone else's servant?" v4
- "You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you treat them with contempt?" v10
- "Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another." v13
The writer of this article, whoever it is, needs to repent for judging all of his brothers and sisters who attended, watched or supported the Charlie Kirk Memorial; hold Kirk as a brother in Christ; AND for judging those who support President Trump.
Al Baker, Ph.D.
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